They can apparently agree on coffee, but Starbucks-sipping Yorkers who weighed in on Tuesday night's presidential debate had little in common beyond the curly-haired siren on the fronts of their cups.
Some of the Wednesday morning coffee crowd said they liked President Barack Obama's fight, while others said the livelier version of the president was too aggressive. Some said Republican nominee Mitt Romney finally clarified his positions, while others said Romney's positions are too fluid to define.
"See how he's all about the middle class all (of) a sudden?" asked Jennifer Wambaugh, a Democrat from York Township. "Like someone on the campaign said, 'Hey, make sure you act like you care about them.'"
The 36-year-old Obama supporter said Romney might get elected on the "middle class" positions he's taking, but she doesn't think he'll live up to the promises or ever be able to relate to the middle class or women in his constituency.
"He's got people bringing him binders of women, but he doesn't know what it's like to be a woman, or a person who doesn't have people bringing him binders," she said, referencing a Romney remark that has since gone viral.
In response to a question about women's equality in the workplace, Romney said women's groups "brought us whole binders full of women" when he was governor of Massachusetts. It almost instantly created an Internet meme and was still being circulated Wednesday morning on social media platforms.
Wambaugh said Romney's phrasing was funny, but she was more impressed that Obama seemed to have shaken off a shyness he had in the first debate.
Too much heat: But Republican Ben Debiec, 36, of Manchester Township, said he didn't appreciate the fire between the men.
He watched some of the debate on mute, gauging body language.
"I thought it was ferocious," he said. "I could feel they were really attacking. It was very fierce, and it didn't lead me one way or another."
He said he didn't understand either candidate's policies and, as a member of the middle class, isn't sure "how either of them is going to help me."
He said he'll likely vote for Romney, because he's pretty sure he'll continue to have a job if his employer is paying less in taxes.
"But really, what's in it for us?"
John Kemmerly, a 55-year-old from Springettsbury Township, said he didn't vote for Obama four years ago and he won't this time around.
Though he's a registered Democrat, he said he'll vote for Romney because Obama hasn't been able to kick-start the economy. The president's lack of experience as an executive is showing, he said, he wants a candidate who will lessen business regulations.
Kemmerly said Obama's aggression toward Romney during the debate was "a way of trying to hide his last four years in office."
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